8050 RWB 2015 rules

Wesley_B · October 2014

Just wondering if the rules will remain the same next year (2015), or if y'all are looking to revise them at all? Thanks

morgan · October 2014

I am interested in knowing this as well.

smokn2500 · October 2014

Didn't see anything wrong with the rules for last year so my vote would be to keep them. Anyone have any suggestions?

Wesley_B · October 2014

For now, I don't either(although a nationally recognized class such as ppl 2.6 would be nice one day). The existing single turbo, oem driveline, etc. sounds good to me. Just wanted to make sure before new parts are acquired.

Temple_DMP · October 2014

I think the rules will stay the same.

6point7cummins · October 2014

Open drive line....

Wesley_B · October 2014

Haha, I hope that is a joke Jevon.

6point7cummins · October 2014

Not joking at all. Open drive line doesn't make any more power than 1 ton parts. Easier and cheaper to maintain.
When mine goes back together it will not be with 1 ton parts.

Wesley_B · October 2014

I don't think a class basically comprised of trucks under 1000hp would ever need open drive line. Sure open doesn't make more power, but the whole concept will put off prospecting pullers. There has to be some hp limiting rules in place.

OleGoat · October 2014

Just because you allow open drive line doesnt mean u have to change your truck to it.... In the years past I have spent too much in ring an pinions because we didnt have open drive lines. just sayin

6point7cummins · October 2014

I agree Jerry. Exactly my point. I'd like to buy a drive line and never need to replace anything again.
I'm fine with HP limiting rules. But open drive line is not one of them.

Wesley_B · October 2014

I would venture to guess that most of the guys pulling around here dont have the means or desire to cut up their truck and build a 1700hp engine that can take advantage of open drive line. There should be a separate class for guys that want to go all out and run open drive line.

6point7cummins · October 2014

Honestly I used to think the same way. Until I priced drop boxes and built Rockwell rears. About a 10-15% increase in cost in comparison to buying built 1ton components.
Under our current rules, essentially unlimited single turbo the HP is almost limitless.

And guys may not want to install open drive line. That's fine they don't have to. I know of several pullers that are on board with open drive line put will keep there current 1ton drive line for another year or slowing change it.

The old 6300 class went through this same dilemma a couple years back and again when they changed to the 6400 class. There were some that were opposed to it too. Ask Temple or anyone in that class if it was good idea to go open drive. They will tell you it work out great. Guys could focus on engine work instead constantly fixing weak drive line parts. Those are making around 1000hp also. They have 20 or more trucks showing up to pulls.

Wesley_B · October 2014

What a mess. Gonna have to make a 500+ft track for there to be one diesel class. There needs to be limiting factors. There's definitely a time and a place for open drive line, I don't disagree.

John · October 2014

Yes what a mess. We tried to have a set of rules for the diesels and they were out there. And that person has not pulled in several years. The class in the Pa. has to run a rear that has to be rebuilt every 5-6 runs.

DirtyDeeds · October 2014

Im Pretty Sure That "The Real Deal" Is 1000+ ... Not On Open Drive Line And He Has No Problems ...

6point7cummins · October 2014

The point is open drive line does not affect power at all nor does it suddenly make a truck hook better.
I think most guys would agree we need real HP limiting rules via engine rules. What we are currently doing is saying the engine can be what ever you want but limiting it to 1ton drive train. Limiting power with drive train is not a good idea IMO.

If you limit HP and tires you can control a class. Who cares what axle or transfer case they use.

DirtyDeeds · October 2014

Why ... Why not get a good 2.6 class like ppl rules or nadm rules and get more good runing trucks to come down so the class would be more compeditive ??????? why make up some dumb set of rules limiting you to where you can pull ..... that what interstate pullers 2.6 class is doing .. there is a bunch of trucks in PA that want to come pull and cant cause of limiting rules .. the fans love the diesel class and im sure they want to see more than a hand full of trucks

Wesley_B · October 2014

^Exactly. I know my brother plans on putting a 2.6 on his truck, he has a customer that is building a truck and plans to go 2.6, I will put a 2.6 on my new truck. Corey is 2.6 already, Bob had a 2.6 it looked like on his truck last year, and all the other trucks in the class would be perfect level for a competitive 2.6 points class. Then you have a handful of guys in southwest va that already have strong 2.6 trucks and could come up to run. Also lets people be able to pull at national events every once in a while, like all the other orgs can do.

Zero drag reverser and drop boxes, plus quick change gears ratios has the potential to put people at a disadvantage.

6point7cummins · October 2014

Bob has a 3.0 charger. And you do realize profab sells a 3 speed nv4500 with your choice of gears. Makes it just like quick change for $3800.
Zero drag?

"The real deal" truck has also had to replace ring & pinions. So no he hasn't had problems he just fixed it before it did.

DirtyDeeds · October 2014

Jevon I heard your truck was also 3.0 ..... ok but corey still runs a Dana 80 and is one of the top 2.6 trucks around ... you got way more guys that wanting a good 2.6 with a good set of rules and competitive trucks to pull with

6point7cummins · October 2014

That's fine, make the 2.6 rules if that's what everyone agrees on. I still want ODL. You guys can keep your 1ton stuff so you can pull elsewhere if you so desire. I want a drive train I can rely on.

Temple told he has had the same reverser for 15 years. And it has never needed anything but an oil change. No 1ton trans will last that long at our power level.

And yes I used to run a 4 year old hx60 3.0 turbo. Then got a newer used hx82 3.0 turbo (which split my block). I've never been secretive about anything I've had. My truck has always been limited on fuel rate delivery because of the common rail injectors. The newest 2.6 hx80 and hx82 chargers cost just as much as 3.0 chargers do.

smokn2500 · October 2014

6point7cummins, you must have seen what I'm putting together for next year and figured you'd have to go odl to keep up! =))

6point7cummins · October 2014

:D yes Greg I see you. And that's because you get all my parts too. So I know your gonna make some powa now. ;)
Call ya later buddy.

DirtyDeeds · October 2014

Well you get someone to pay 500-600$ payout to win each pull i could maybe see going to open drive line class ...

6point7cummins · October 2014

Payout is a completely different issue in my mind. Especially when ODL really doesn't cost much more than a top of line 1ton drive train. And again if you don't want it or need it you don't have to buy it.

DirtyDeeds · October 2014

Well maybe temple will have ODL class for you .... and a 2.6 class for everyone else cause i still think you will have more money for the promotor and a better turn out with a set of ppl or nadm 2.6 rules

6point7cummins · October 2014

ODL 2.6 would not stop anyone from participating. Not to be mean but we hear this every year that there are a bunch of guys that want to come puller but never do. Where were they this year? They could have come especially considering good 2.6 powered trucks rule the roost around here anyway. So whats holding them back? Its not our rules. The reality is the participants will be the same guys we currently see at every event.

DirtyDeeds · October 2014

Why are you so worried about ODL if you want it then why not step your truck up to east coast 3.0 class they have open driveline .........

6point7cummins · October 2014

I will. Why are you so scared of ODL?

DirtyDeeds · October 2014

Im not .... Its stupid they have classes for ODL like 3.0 and unlimited classes... its clear that everyone is trying to beat corey ... but no need to make a hacked up set of rules to do ... this is exactly why there isnt any good classes around here for diesel trucks cause everyone wants to hack the rules up like interstates 2.6 class ... same 5 trucks .. stupid rules .. the 2.6 class rep pulls in the class and makes up the rules .... no one is gonna wanna spend 4000$ for a good charger ... and then spend 3500$ for a drop box and then how ever much a rock well cost to come be compeditive .. you mid as well just cancel the class ... there are more 2.6 trucks floating around than you think

6point7cummins · October 2014

Then we have no problem then.
Corey has a great running truck. Beating him has nothing to do with any of this.
A drop box only cost $2200 BTW. I plan on pulling for a long time and would like to purchase drive train that will last a very long time. Again you wouldn't have to buy it if you don't want to.
Lots of 2.6 classes are asking for ODL. Considering 2.6 is making 1300+hp now.

John · October 2014

Why is Corey the issue. He has a truck that is set up for where he likes to go and pull. Thats his choice. IF, and I say IF, I was building a truck to pull it would have the best or least breakable parts in the drive line. So, if it took a ODL to get this done then I would do that if the rules apply. As it stands now the rules are 1 ton or smaller. If the parts don't hold up to the power what I have now, what is going to happen in two or three years when I build a motor with more power. This is going to happen, I have seen this in other classes. If we were to allow ODL would that cause some not to pull. You tell me.

smokn2500 · October 2014

I don't think anyone is making rules to beat anyone. If anything maybe a future of establishing rules to have a closer pulling class. ODL doesn't add power or plant the truck harder, but is added insurance on your power plant. No one wants to spend money on an engine to have it fail due to inadequate drive line. For those who want to run 2.6 where open drive line isn't allowed then don't run odl on your truck. Those of us who go to the majority of temple's pulls and run in his points system would like to run a stronger drive line that isn't always nickel and dime'n us to death that's all. But if ODL is allowed then RWB needs to end and engine rules need to be made, otherwise it's going to be crazy and not any fun.

RealDeal · October 2014

I think if we are going to make any rule changes we need to make it a 2.6 class ppl rules. We dont need ODL!!!!!!!!!!! my truck is holding up just fine i thought a couple years ago we needed a open drive line to make the truck live. But since then i have found out you dont need a ODL. The only reason you need a ODL is if your planing on making 1700 plus horsepower and im not spending $110,000 so i can win $220.

Wesley_B · October 2014

=D>

6point7cummins · October 2014

Its $225 to win gosh lol!!!
Corey you cant actually believe it cost 110,000 to build a 3.0 truck (unless someone never lays a finger on It and just orders it from someone)? I've spoken with several 3.0 guys across the country and the reason they built a 3.0 truck was because it was basically the same cost as a 2.6 truck that's not even my point here. The engines being built today are basically the same for either class.

Why is it so offensive to you guys if I run ODL? Even though we have established its cheaper in the long run and doesn't make a truck pull harder or magically give it more power. I'm truly looking for a serious discussion on this I'm not trying to be mean or yell or be rude to anyone.

Chevyfan87 · October 2014

Odl just means more money spent now to be able to build a motor with more horsepower in the future. Look at all the rule changes that have happened in the 6400 class over the years with the dropboxes and rockwell rears there pretty much a 6200 national truck with a small motor and dot tires! make a change like that and you'll want more and more changes every year.

Temple_DMP · October 2014

I must say that when we went to the ODL in the 6400 class it was the best thing we ever did. There was a lot of bitchin and complaining when we decided to do it but it made that class a better class .I mean look at the class now. It speaks for itself.

Bad_Mannerz · October 2014

ODL for Outlaw? Hehehe. I just had to try!!!!!

Chevyfan87 · October 2014

All I'm saying is where does it end when you go to an open driveline? Next is the engine, cut tires, lift bodies hell maybe a tube chassis! Plus a few short years ago the 6400 class was just about dead 4 or 5 at points pulls! Then the demise of the 6300 trucks really helped the class.

Wesley_B · October 2014

Let's go straight to billet engine blocks while we're at it. I'm sure it will save money in a few years. And I'm sure none of the prospects will care.

6point7cummins · October 2014

Wow... So I guess that's a no to having a real discussion.

puller · October 2014

BOTTOMS UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wesley_B · October 2014

Sorry, that was a little bit out of hand. Just trying to give a sense of the rationale I see.

Lightsout · October 2014

The hotfarm class has battled a similar issue with the turbo the last couple years, they just wouldn't live. I spent way too much trying to keep mine together. If we could have had a "better turbo" that wouldn't have happened. Why not allow the Open Drive Line, lock it in for three years, that will keep the rules from changing. As for Corey and Jevon, per Dragon Motorsports points, looks to me like they only faced each other one time(Chris driving if memory serves). As for the $225 winning, yall come on Down to South Boston this summer and it'll pay 500-600 to win.

Bad_Mannerz · October 2014

:-bd

DirtyDeeds · October 2014

There are trucks that pull with full pull productions in there 2.6 class that have the same motor that the 3.0 trucks run making im sure 1200+ hp that dont run ODL .. maybe temple can have a class for jevon with no rules so he can pull in and then a real class for the guys who wanna compete

smokn2500 · October 2014

Just want to know. If Jevon builds his truck to meet every rule of 2.6 but runs an open drive line what advantage will he have over 1 ton drive train other than durability? If odl is just going to be an overkill on strength then why would it matter? But if it's going to effectively have an outcome on power and traction then I understand.

6point7cummins · October 2014

I apologize for "stirring the pot" so to speak. Its not my intention to upset people or make them mad. I also don't want this to be one sided. We are all in this sport to have fun and compete. Because most of us are very competitive people. I'm expressing my opinion on where I think our class would eventually go. Maybe its not good timing for this year. I see the power level rise every year and not just in our class. Everyone one of us goes back to the shop in the winter thinking "how can I make more power and put it to the ground".
I consider all of my fellow pullers good friends and am always willing to listen and help if needed.

DirtyDeeds · October 2014

Ok so what 2.6 class around here allows ODL ???????

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